Alistair and Infidelity
Apr 13
How dare he cheat me?
I have been replaying Origins again because I wanted it to be even more fresh in my mind before starting Awakening. Alistair was my romantic interest the first time around so this time, I have committed myself to dallying with someone else. At first, this was merely motivated by my desire to get another achievement, but as I started playing, I realized the decision was influenced by deeper emotions.
Whenever a dialogue sequence begins between my new character and Alistair, I feel like I have to be quite careful not to suggest anything inappropriate. It is as if this new character is a friend of my old character and cannot flirt with her friend’s boyfriend. Complicated and seemingly irrational, I imagine you’re thinking. How can I even think such things when it is obviously an entirely separate timeline? Alistair has never known my first character nor has my present character known any of my others. She is free to do whatever and whomever she likes. For some reason though, it doesn’t feel that way to me.
Not only am I trying to keep things very Platonic between dear Alistair and myself, I can’t help but notice things about him that made my first character like him. For example, I had entirely forgotten about the scene between Alistair and the player-character directly after Ostagar at Flemeth’s hut. You wake up, have a bit of dialogue, and then stumble outside to be greeted by a very lonely and sad Alistair. He was just so happy to see me alive and well that I could not help but feel a flutter. “No,” I tell myself, “it’s just because all his friends just died. Keep it cool.” But I can already sense the danger there.
Besides this feeling of responsibility I have to my character’s “friend”, I also feel somewhat angry at Alistair. How dare he even let this character think that he’s a potential target for flirtation!! Doesn’t he remember last night?? “If he so much as hints at a lamp-post, I am going to…” Wait, different timeline. He’s not being an unfaithful cad. I’m just getting too involved in my own character’s experiences.
Although I am one to get involved in stories and typically have either positive or negative feelings about the characters (if well done), this interactive anachronistic experience with one is entirely different. I do not think it would be possible in a linear textual narrative at all, and not even in something like a “Choose Your Own Adventure”. In a game, I not only react to the characters, but I become one myself and not always the same one. I have the opportunity to play a role in the story, but a role that is only half written. I am the one who develops the character, perhaps a different one every time.
Not only is this interactive authorial experience different from that in a linear textual narrative, but so too is the presentation of the characters. In a book, one’s imagination does much of the work. We put faces and voices to characters as we interpret their descriptions. Before film put us all on the same track, my Gandalf would have likely sounded much different from yours. In a game, the character has a face and voice supplied to us and our imagination is never burdened with the creation. We may accept Alistair’s face and voice as his own, but it actually takes a great deal of skill to make this happen. In the scene I mentioned above at Flemeth’s hut, Alistair’s expressions (facial animations) and vocal intonations work together to create a believable character feeling recognizable emotions. When he saw me, Alistair’s expression and words were so infused with hope and relief that it was not just someone reading a script; it was Alistair speaking to me.
“But wait, this new character isn’t really me, right? She can do whatever she wants, even Alistair,” I say with an evil and somewhat guilty grin.
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16 comments
Comment by Ana on April 13, 2010 at 9:55 am
I get the same situation in every time that I play, with all characteres. When I finish a game, I always think "ok, let's play being a bad ass now", but it's too hard! How can I even think in hurt my dear friends from the past?! And then I make up some excuse to myself and make my character becomes good. But I think this kind of feelings make myself get evet more inside the game, when I playing, I really feel angry, love, compassion, in a way that is just like it could be in my real life. But what I feel in the game stay in the game, and that is what I think is awesome about games, is just like a movie, but much much more connected to you!
Comment by Inês Merle on April 13, 2010 at 12:08 pm
It is also probably much more connected to you because, in the case of Bioware games, you play some kind of an empty character waiting to be filled by you – and, in the case of Dragon Age, for the lack of Dark Side/ Light Side points, you can really act like you want and do what you want, with no consequence to the goodie-two-shoes/badass meter. It's so involving, it might get scary sometimes, but THAT is a compliment, Bioware ;)
My main character in Dragon Age is kind of a wisecracking but noble mage, with hints of rebel behavior, and possibly much closer to the Chaotic Good D&D type and much closer to a personal avatar of mine in the DA Universe. Although, I also play with noble types, closer to Lawful Good Paragon Shepard Behavior. It has crossed my mind, many times, playing an utter bitch, but I do not think I have aquired the emotional distance necessary to do it, for the levels of involvement can get *quite* intense, and I know, from past experiences, that I end up revolted by said choices.
I also have to add that I think I am physical unable of playing Dragon Age: Origins as a female and NOT romancing Alistair. Oh, involvement!;D Cheers, Bioware!
Comment by Inês Merle on April 13, 2010 at 12:08 pm
It is also probably much more connected to you because, in the case of Bioware games, you play some kind of an empty character waiting to be filled by you – and, in the case of Dragon Age, for the lack of Dark Side/ Light Side points, you can really act like you want and do what you want, with no consequence to the goodie-two-shoes/badass meter. It's so involving, it might get scary sometimes, but THAT is a compliment, Bioware ;)
My main character in Dragon Age is kind of a wisecracking but noble mage, with hints of rebel behavior, and possibly much closer to the Chaotic Good D&D type and much closer to a personal avatar of mine in the DA Universe. Although, I also play with noble types, closer to Lawful Good Paragon Shepard Behavior. It has crossed my mind, many times, playing an utter b*tch, but I do not think I have aquired the emotional distance necessary to do it, for the levels of involvement can get *quite* intense, and I know, from past experiences, that I end up revolted by said choices.
I also have to add that I think I am physical unable of playing Dragon Age: Origins as a female and NOT romancing Alistair. Oh, involvement!;D Cheers, Bioware!
Comment by Kateri on April 13, 2010 at 1:27 pm
That moment – leaving Flemeth's hut and talking to Alistair is just perfect. Perfect lighting, atmosphere, voice acting, everything. It's the moment where the game really hooked me, where I thought, wow, this is something really special here. Masterfully handled.
It humanises the tragedy for the player, and invests them in what's happened, even though they barely knew Duncan, and never even met the other Wardens. Alistair's grief acts as an emotional line into the story – you care because he does. (Unless you're some kind of heartless harpy, anyway! :P )
Comment by Longasc on April 13, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Reading a book a second time (I rarely do that) sometimes reveals new insights and often enhances the experience. If you read it a few years later, you might even relate to the events in a book in an entirely new way.
Dragon Age is even better in this regard. I did not treat Alistair too well with my male character. I immediately noticed how he simply *must* entice female players, as a very likeable and handsome character. This caused me to team up with Morrigan and Dog to make fun of him every time he got a bit whiny. ;)
In my second run, again with a male char, I treated him by far better. He still did not become king, as he totally freaked out as I spared Logan I married Anora again and he went away to end up as a drunk.
The major difference in my 2nd game was ZEVRAN. A totally unsympathic character. A rogue! I do not like rogues at all! And he has so bad skills, and there is no place in the party for him. He cannot pick locks nearly as good as Leliana initially.
Yet I soon discovered that Zevran is witty and has quite some depth below the shallow and unlikeable surface. He also had absolutely hilarious dialogue with Wynne and Leliana.
It is interesting how things develop differently than intended. I never expected Zevran to become so dear to me. I also planned to crown Alistair as king. I also planned not to be nice to Morrigan at all and rather focus on doing Sten's quests.
In the end I had affairs with Leliana, Zevran and Morrigan. It is very interesting that I not really had not planned for a romance with either of them, but breaking Zevran's heart almost broke mine! God, I wondered if I just turned gay. Interestingly, as Leliana asked me "I or Morrigan", I first picked her, went to Morrigan, saw her cursing, swearing, really hurt and immediately reloaded and changed my answer to stay with Morrigan.
It is interestingly how it all turned out very similar to my first game ind the end despite doing a lot of things very differently. The second game was very rewarding as the different actions added even more depth to the characters and revealed new information about them.
Comment by Valeska on April 13, 2010 at 3:27 pm
IT seems impossible not to feel for Alistair. I mean the first time you… well… you KNOW. How is all shy and tells you he's… you know… NOT. It is great. The animation for that first time to! Who is the female at Bioware that knew how its done? Give her a raise.
Comment by Dork of Night on April 13, 2010 at 3:42 pm
I've played through many times & even though I have changed things up to get certain achievements, I too find it difficult to avoid Alistair. The ending with him becoming a drunk bothered me because it seemed so unfair to someone who was dedicated to his cause. It's the depth of the characters that has kept me playing. To see how Sten and Shale become friends (and maybe more in Shale's mind), to watch Morrigan become vulnerable because she starts to have friends and (of course) to see Alistair develop into a man who should be king – these are the elements that make a great game.
Comment by @LyricalBandit on April 13, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Those interactions, those connections, is what makes DA:O golden me thinks. When it's time to make plot changing decisions, or even taking on smaller sub-quests, I kind of think to myself, "would so-and-so like this? How would this effect them?" How crazy might I sound saying I look for approval in a game character? Haha!
Comment by Aeda on April 13, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Honestly, this is the first game I feel so connected to the characters. I feel the emotions – love, angry, sad…. everything. I'm currently on the second playthrough. For me, I started to feel the emotions late in the. Well, perhaps because of my poor laptop that keeps stuck and stutter.
Then, after landsmeet and ready to march for Denerim, I really felt the connections. I felt so inspired with Alistair's speech. I felt the enthusiasm to free Ferelden once and for all. I fell completely to Alistair – a shy and awkward boy finally rose up to the challenge and destiny. Siege of Denerim and final blow just add up to the feeling. When all is over. I felt really sad that I have to part with my companion especially Alistair. I have awakening but still playing DAO due to the overwhelming feeling…
Alistair is so cute, awkward, funny, a little bit emotional, none of the macho man or control freak – he really grabs my attention!
Comment by Harbinger on April 13, 2010 at 4:44 pm
For me, playing through Dragon Age and not choosing Morrigan over anyone, regardless of my class and origin, I am really fond of her. Even while intrigued by Lelianna, Morrigan just allures me completely and totally. And when it comes to the guys, Sten is my favorite. We have a shared love for cookies, he and I. Hm, now I feel an odd desire to play as a female and attempt to romance the stoic giant… Oh no. You've corrupted me!
Comment by Steven on April 13, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I can't help but fall into his trap every time…he looks so miserable without someone to love him….and he's so deserving.
Comment by @aithne on April 13, 2010 at 8:40 pm
I'm on my, um, embarrassingly-high-numberth playthrough, this time doing a Team Evil runthrough with a dwarf noble female. (picking up those last few achievements, all of which involve making choices that I would usually never make, like keeping the Anvil of the Void and siding with the werewolves to kill the Dalish.) What I've noticed in this playthrough, giving Alistair mostly neutral signals, is just how persistent he is. I think I've gone through various permutations of "not interested" with him three times now. He's starting to remind me of a couple of exes of mine. :)
My favorite romance in the game is Zevran, by far, mostly because I enjoy untangling complicated people.
Comment by Lord_Anthonior on April 13, 2010 at 10:39 pm
I'm in the same situation, as many times I have started the game I feel compell, attracted and commited just to Morrigan, from start to finish, even reloading the game after a conversation just to try another one and then reload it as I wanted to be.
I tried and manage to keep Leliana at good friend's distance, just enough to get to ther personal quest and get her the marjolaine's recurve but besides that I'm a Man and Elf just for Morrigan. (wich I held Claudia Black and her beautiful voice responsable for that, gotta love her!)
Cont…
Comment by Lord_Anthonior on April 13, 2010 at 10:39 pm
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In the ritual at the end, I kinda get to the point that felt as she was trying to convince me to do the ritual of course I was gonna accept it anyway but having her saying that she would prefer me even if the castle was filled with a thousands gery wardens is always good to hear, besides giving a sense of exposing her true feelings.
I do admit that at one game I was with high approval level with both Morrigan and Leliana, I succumb and also bed Leliana but that was my first or second time playing, before having to deal with approval reductions I reloaded the game, so yes, infidelity runs among everyone and some remorse too…but in the end, It was Morrigan and only her.
Comment by Desiderata on April 14, 2010 at 1:43 pm
For my first run, I developed a relationship with Alistair for my Female Noble. The whole experience was magical, and everything ended perfectly with both becoming King and Queen of Ferelden.
For my second run through, I decided to taste the life of an elf. I at first was shocked and repulsed at all the ill treatment my female character received, one for being an elf, two for being a woman. In most of my experience with fantasy fiction, elves are cool, far more skilled and prestigious than humans. Aware that the if Alistair became king, the romance would end badly, I still pursued Alistair. You can imagine my heart ache when he dumped me to rule the thrown. But to my surprise, it was the friendship with Morrigan that was the most profound for this second character. For my first run through, Morrigan annoyed me, she wasn't an enemy, but she wasn't a friend either. Playing the elf, I explored her character quests, and in the end, she was as familiar as a sister, and it was so heart-warming to see this other side of her, where she accepts friends, regrets treating others so harshly in the beginning, and presents potential emotion that she would actually miss you. With still lingeringly feelings for Alistair, I hadn't planned on going through the ritual, but seeing the hurt on Morrigan's face when her offered was refused, I had to reload, with the comfort of knowing that her full support would be present at the final battle. As all best friends are!
Comment by Niza on April 19, 2011 at 10:49 am
As a woman, do you really want "your husband" sleep with other woman?
Female Warden who about to become a queen MUST ask Alistair to sleep with Morrigan…or else either she or Alistair died in the end…
suck…